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All the stuff that you just told us about ordering hits, that kind of thing, you're going to have to do that. you're going to have to put that to writing. >> just for my own understanding, what is the main source of your change of heart? >> basically i'm tired of doing other people's dirty work, of ordering people to do things that because -- for someone else's selfish reasons, when, in fact, it doesn't benefit me here nor there. i was ordered to kill a dear friend of mine, and i really didn't appreciate that. >> good enough for me. >> there's no guarantees. so it really has to come from withi...

California state prison corcoran when thomas spiller, a long-time gang member, went before the inmate review board to request debriefing. >> i can certainly see your point of view. however, a good many of inmates in the program have, in fact, been in my position in the past and have also called hits on other inmates and then -- and actually done hits themselves. so i'm assuming that you have had the same concerns about them, or am i being singled out for some reason? >> let's not go there. you are going to be given the opportunity to debrief, you know? now, she's only giving you the honest tru...

Actually done hits themselves. so i'm assuming that you have had the same concerns about them, or am i being singled out for some reason? >> let's not go there. you are going to be given the opportunity to debrief, you know? now, she's only giving you the honest truth. and the truth is there is concern. it also depends on how sincere you are when you do your history statement. all the stuff that you just told us about ordering hits, that kind of thing, you're going to have to do that. you're going to have to put that to writing. >> just for my own understanding, what is the main source of your...

However, a good many of inmates in the program have, in fact, been in my position in the past and have also called hits on other inmates and then -- and actually done hits themselves. so i'm assuming that you have had the same concerns about them, or am i being singled out for some reason? >> let's not go there. you are going to be given the opportunity to debrief, you know? now, she's only giving you the honest truth. and the truth is there is concern. it also depends on how sincere you are when you do your history statement. all the stuff that you just told us about ordering hits, that kind ...

Have a question about your sincerity about debriefing. >> "lockup" cameras were at california state prison corcoran when thomas spiller, a long-time gang member, went before the inmate review board to request debriefing. >> i can certainly see your point of view. however, a good many of inmates in the program have, in fact, been in my position in the past and have also called hits on other inmates and then -- and actually done hits themselves. so i'm assuming that you have had the same concerns about them, or am i being singled out for some reason? >> let's not go there. you are going to be gi...