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We know we've already averted at least one tragedy with our own training. we don't know much about this shooter yet. i've heard speculation about his online activity. i'm waiting for confirmed facts. i guarantee you, i guarantee you, there are -- he's going to have told someone about his act. someone out there knew. we saw it in all the previous shootings. we're going to see it in this one, too. someone could have made a difference if they had said something. >> nicole, in just a little bit we'll have governor mike huckabee, republican presidential candidate, on the show with us. he sent his p...

From me. it will be coming from you. >> now, some of the numbers the president highlighted them last night, cnn has collected them independently from government figures. from 2004 to 2013, more than 300,000 people were killed by gunfire, and the number here and abroad due to terrorism during that same time, 313. something to consider. let's discuss this whole issue and this massacre. joining us now is republican presidential candidate former governor, mike huckabee. governor, thank you so much for joining us. we really appreciate it on this day as everyone keeps their thoughts -- as you pointe...

Books dropping, but then they quickly realized unfolding in front of them was a horrific shooting rampage, four days into their school day. now more disturbing details are coming out about what happened and why at oregon's umpqua community college that left nine victims dead, nine others injured. >> at this point we do not know the identity of most of the victims. it is their stories that matter, that should and will be our focus when we learn them. there is new information about the killer, 26 years old. he was armed with four guns as he entered classrooms, firing. the shooting rampage lasted...

Figure in chicago, and so he with because part of the administration when the president came in, and the president will be taking questions later on and he will be asked obvious ly about syria and the russians engaging in the air strikes, just as the coalition is, and how is the deconfliction process going with the russian, and of course sh, president is going to be asked about what is happening in response to what happened in oregon, the community college shoot, and does the president plan to advance legislation aimed at more gun control, and the president said i guess that we need to po llit...

Stopped that shooter. so, when i hear people say, fewer guns, fewer guns in the hands of crazy people, i agree. but maybe a gun in the hand of a police officer, in a security officer, or in a well-trained citizen who could intervene and at least save some of the lives if not all of them. >> but that's -- you made a key statement there at the end. save some of the lives. if someone wants to go in and die anyway, still goes in to do this kind of shooting, he's going to get some shots off. some people are going to still die even if you arm everyone in that room, aren't they, governor? >> somebody...