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>> but never as much as him, i think. >> is he right? >> i'd forgot about the oreo cookie promise. >> is he right to be worried about the base that he should be tending to it more so than any other issue. >> they need the base to turn out, clearly, that's not all you need in the midterms but it might be the difference between a debacle and just a very bad year. chuck, he made a lot of promise, over promised in a lot of ways and i've been surprised to how faithful he's been to his coalition, he really wants to deliver on his agenda and it's very frustrating when something like the wall, his sig...

Isolation, whether it's with the border and trade, this is where he wants to go and this complicates it all. i think he is nervous about his own political base which is why he's been so focused on the border. >> your metaphor of hugging the base is exactly right. it's not just politically that he cares about the base, it seems to be his security blanket. when he spoke about the tax reform, he throws it away and says i don't really care about this. i want to talk about the wall and i want to talk about trade and i want to talk about tariffs, and it's as if going back to the base gives him a sen...

Assistant, but he was nonetheless a lightning rod. he is out tonight, again on this friday night of a category 4 hurricane making landfall in the lower 48. fair to say that he could not have worked in any other white house but this one? >> oh, more than fair to say. you know, i don't know that he could have been associated with any other moment in politics than this one. i think this is -- i think that john kelly's tenure as white house chief of staff, why it has coincided with really some of the most controversial moments of donald trump's presidency, those are all because of donald trump. bu...

>> reporter: daughter, ivanka trump, was busy doing business, yes, china. she sells shoes and handbags made in china. and even in the last three months, the final leg of the campaign, the ivanka trump brand was receiving shipment after shipment of merchandise, more than 60 in all, according to records analyzed by cnn. >> we owe them, they took everything, $1.4 trillion. how do you do that? >> reporter: trade talk on the campaign trail intrigued robert lawrence, a professor of international trade and investment at harvard. his interest piqued when early on, donald trump found out nabisco was mo...

Made in china. and even in the last three months, the final leg of the campaign, the ivanka trump brand was receiving shipment after shipment of merchandise, more than 60 in all, according to records analyzed by cnn. >> we owe them, they took everything, $1.4 trillion. how do you do that? >> reporter: trade talk on the campaign trail intrigued robert lawrence, a professor of international trade and investment at harvard. his interest piqued when early on, donald trump found out nabisco was moving its oreo cookie bakery to mexico. >> they're leaving chicago. which means i'm never going to eat a...