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You look at a meeting like this, how do both sides decide what are the deliverable ares or results you can get out of what is ultimately an exchange of words. >> so both of the presidents wanted to come out of this looking as if they're winners. president putin wants to come out and tell his population that he was respected by the u.s. president. i think the same would be true for donald trump. and you've had the huge buildup since the u.s. election campaign where are president trump praised vladimir putin and vice versa. this is the fourth president that ut putin has dealt with. he was traine...

Multiple warnings from the intelligence community but trump said nobody knows for sure. all eyes turn to the meeting with putin tomorrow. and of course it will be the small group, something putin prefers. secretary of state tillerson, sergey lavrov be the counterpart. the back drop to the meeting watt home the new poll finds 54% of americans nink trump acted illegal or unethically with regard to russia issues. a former dpomt in the obama administration, and an russia. expertise in the national security council. and our congressional reporter for npr. starting with you, angela, when you look at...

>> first he is going to flatter president trump. he knows the president has spoken highly of mr. putin throughout his campaign and before that. this is a president trump who is still rather inexperienced when it comes to foreign policy. inexperienced when it comes to intense one-on-one meetings. conversery vladimir putin kgb is a kuning operative. in fact once he brought a large dog to a meeting with angela merkel because she knew she was afraid of him. >> how did she take that. >> not well. >> i hadn't heard the dog story had you. >> i had, yeah it's a great story. >> it's a good one. and dog...

Perspective how you deal with individuals and what how you figure out what the weaknesses are, know how to flatter them. again i'm sure he is well prepared for this. i think donald trump is also used to figuring out people's strengths and weaknesses. just think about the debates. you know during the campaign. but it's a different kind of training and he comes from a different background. >> rick? >> you want me to react to that. by the way one thing i would object to is that while trump has praised putin, putin has not praised trump. it's a one-sided bromance the. >> putin said -- colorful was...

And more you a all of this and more with the meeting with putin still to come. as promised i want to bring in the expert panel nbc white house correspondent kristin welker and white house bureau chief phil rucker. phil starting with you put the president's extemp ranes comments here in context. because he wanted to strike a presidential or stark note as i mentioned with regard to the existential question. but he quickly ended up back in a political mode. >> yeah that's right exactly right. it's interesting if you look at his actual scripted speech he gave outdoors in war saw. he was trying to ...