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President. it is racist. >> tribalism plays a big role t. red tribe doesn't help the blue tribe. >> maybe when president obama is not the president, maybe there would be. there is also the issue of not only his name an face, if those things are removed. >> i say in the clinton year, they say clinton was the by-gone era. >> that moderate obama we already like. so i'd probably mention it once or twice in his ear. >> our team forced many tow watch thiscliff clip this week. i have to say yes whennist it comes to the west when they did get it right. >> i ned to you pardon the turkey. >> you need yo...

>> you did everything we said not to do. >> you have no sink. >> you can open it in the pan. all those juices can be blotted up withtime. it will keep the turkey safe and the heat in the oven. >> go ahead. >> so if you padded patted it dry with paper towel. inside there are two cavities. there is a place to put stuffing two places in the turkey. the large cavity between if drumsticks. >> this way. is usually where you will find the neck of the turkey. >> what do we do? >> this way. >> put your hand in there. >> i don't use gloves, some people use plastic gloves. >> sitting there. >> inside. >>...

>> marty, they told me our time is up. you've got us halfway through and we really -- >> that is nowhere halfway. >> good enough. >> the last thing, the most important, after two thirds of the cooking time tent with foil. 325 oven after about two hours on a 12 pound turkey tent with foil and cook until the thigh is 180 and the stuffing 165. >> marty, thank you so much. i'll take this turkey home and try to fit it on the subway. put it in my oven. >> go to butter ball.com and look at the videos on line. >> there it is. and i'll let you know how this turns out tomorrow if i survive or if the tur...

Fwets the pardon, popcorn or caramel. popcorn won. they didn't kill caramel. this is a pointless contest. wane way this got us wondering where did this whole pardoning come from in the first place? some think it began with ap practice lam lincoln. he established a regular holiday inn 1863 to promote national unity, honest abe did spare a turkey that year his young son tad came to love as a pet. that was christmas, not thanksgiving. so it didn't start two lincoln. others think it began with harry truman who did receive ceremonial turkeys in 1947 fully they're wrok wrong, too. he let them know t...

And because you have a product that you inserted into the turkey and it is in a raw area. that's why it needs to reach a men mum of the 165. now 170. it's perfect between that range. but the thigh meat needs to cook higher. because it's a little more muscular and needs to tenderize so 180 is done in the thigh meat. >> you baste it, right? >> we have a minute. >> you can brush with oil or spray with oil. i put it in naked. >> we got butter. >> you can wipe butter on it. sometimes the milk solids cause little burn spots. i would spray with oil or -- whatever you have. >> i dumped the tray of but...