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Basically says to the president himself, you will not be a good witness? >> it's remarkable. mike and joyce, i would like both your thoughts on that. i heard months ago that friends and allies outside the white house were concerned that the president may have in the way that he does business, the way he operates, may have done something that would look like obstruction of justice. it seems like a new bridge now, that it's his own lawyers who have these concerns that are now increasingly public. joyce, you first. >> well, their concerns are public, and the president has done nothing but to put ...

It's his people who worked on his campaign and the thing is, he keeps taking the bait and these tweets that he does every day. if he just ignored it -- >> i would say, greta, one reason why the president -- and friends of his and friends of friends of his, the outside circle that has known trump for years and that cares about him and people who have wisdom here are saying that precisely that reason, you need a ted olson or you need a brendan sullivan from williams and connolly. if you can get them. which i don't think you can. you need somebody to take the cell phone away from him or give it t...

Exception of vallerie jarrett, the people that helped get him elected and re-electriced, and he doesn't reach out to people in washington enough, particularly those on the hill. >> he thinks he does. people on capitol hill compare him to not just president clinton -- i'm talking about democrats -- but actually compare him to president bush. there are those democrats that wonder why thief never gotten invited to camp david. it's little things. you know about these things, andrea. whether it's camp david, whether it's rides in air force one. the president hates this criticism. gets very frustrat...