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So he doesn't evince the hatred and ill will that necessary -- >> no, no, again, i said he wasn't serial. i didn't say this wasn't serious. he did it this time. i'm just saying there is no evidence -- >> look -- >> there is a black guy, he said there is a dangerous guy but there is nothing inheritly dangerous about a hoodie -- >> and the only people that are talking about race are the prosecution witnesses to evince a motion. let's remember what the evidence was. you know, i was a former prosecutor -- i was a prosecutor, hold on. the police determined there wasn't sufficient evidence beyond a ...

>> is there anybody in terms of outside pressure who might be able to flip more senators against it it? right now it looks like it's going to pass. >> i think the senate is solid. i'm not sure how many votes they are going to get, but they are probably beginning to get close to 70 votes. and u think that's a bug deal. but the problem for them is the house. and the media, the switch by fox and some of the other members of the media on the conservative side to a certain degree didn't happen soon enough. people are hearing from people back home, it's become an engrained thing in politics. members...

>> is there anybody in terms of outside pressure who might be able to flip more senators against it it? right now it looks like it's going to pass. >> i think the senate is solid. i'm not sure how many votes they are going to get, but they are probably beginning to get close to 70 votes. and u think that's a bug deal. but the problem for them is the house. and the media, the switch by fox and some of the other members of the media on the conservative side to a certain degree didn't happen soon enough. people are hearing from people back home, it's become an engrained thing in politics. members...

As everyone is talking about tyranny and the president coming to steal your guns. i think the white house is smart and they feel like they need to move public opinion. they want it to feel like it's happening, not just the white house throwing itself into congress throwing fists but there is real popular support, movement. you will see a lot of outside pressure. if they can mobilize that maybe they can break the jam. for unfortunately for people who want to see action, i don't see it right now. >> thank you all. coming up, president obama and karzai talk troop levels in afghanistan. is the e...

Pressure he may have faced, how much was justice roberts influenced by outside pressure? cbs said this, quote, over the next six weeks as roberts began to craft a decision striking down the mandate, the external pressure began to grow. roberts almost certainly was aware of it. he pays attention to made yeah cover. he's keenly aware of his role in the court and he's sensitive to how his court is perceived in the public. does it make sense to you that perhaps he took one for the team? you have charles on the left saying this is why roberts may have taken this path. >> it's plausible, but i don't...