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And it's a very strange combination of emotions that you have there on the street behind me in this tahrir square right now, which is very appropriately called in the translation, liberation square. >> ivan watson, thanks so much from cairo. of course we'll be checking back with you. >> he talks about the strange combination. we've been hearing a happy kind of chaos, in other places, bloody conflict. that's still -- >> contradictions. >> exactly. our long time cairo bureau chief ben wedeman joins us now. where have you been and what have you seen? >> reporter: i've been sort of going around to...