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>> charles: the showdown over the shut down. protests erupting on capitol hill over daca as lawmakers cut a deal to keep the government running. to mike emanuel on capitol hill with this high stakes battle. >> the offer is a government funding extension to allow more time on daca. the plan would keep the government open through february 16 and delay some obamacare-related taxes and put off the daca fight for later. mitch mcconnell is defending holding off on dealing with immigration until lawmakers know they have a package that president trump supports and that president trump would be willing...

>> charles: sounds like your argument is what the republican colleagues in the senate as it is with democrats. >> if somebody wants to say they're willing to shut down the government because they don't want to fund the military or because they want to put people here illegally in front of funding the military, they can make that argument. i think we can agree that we need to find solutions in hand. but we have to get to it. we wasted the month of august. the senate has wasted 100 days passing no bills. if we continue to do monthly c.r.s, why would they pass any appropriations bills? >> charles...

Qualities as trump. we'll see. then, again, i don't know if she's going to enjoy the political give and take. that's a very mild way to put it. >> neil: absolutely. talking about give and take, a lot of people were mesmerized, some alluded when we were covering this cabinet meeting at the white house with democratic and republican senators and representatives. you know jousting with the president over daca, what to do. but it harkened back to days, you would write about in the past, where both sides have a free exchange of ideas, not quite tip o'neill and ronald reagan in the white house resid...

I think that donald trump believes now and always has believed he is the new republican party. i think that is being informed and is being cheered on by somebody like steve bannon, who says you go your own way. he doesn't side with him, as david just said, when it comes to working with democrats on daca and the d.r.e.a.m.ersish, he'll hit him on that, but generally speaking, taking on anybody in the establishment is a good thing because he can defend that. and he has the idea, republicans come home, even if it's not his kind of republican. what you have got to show the rest of the party that i...

And chuck schumer over daca, breitbart would hit them over that. i don't think it's a permanent relationship you are talking about and it's totally dependant on defense. i think steve bannon is clearly employing a strategy, a notion that the republican party offester year is no more, and that cannot be, and it's not where the grassroots activism is, inside the party. it's here. here, this other wing of the party. donald trump gets that and he felt that on the campaign trail. steve bannon is trying to reshape the republican party in the image of the pop yao lizam. >> bannon was the biggest voic...