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To raise the question of, this was all going on on the last administration's watch. why didn't we know more and why didn't we do more and we know partly from the president's perspective, he didn't want to say more about what was going on because he was afraid of the politics of it. he didn't want to seem like he was jumping into this messy election where donald trump was claiming it was rigged and putting his finger on the scale, but ultimately, i don't know that that was the right call in terms of people being really -- >> it's not like this was brought up in the back and forth, that this was...

Administration. the obama administration allowed them to run wild. it's not a tough problem because we don't want to unilaterally walk away from the arms deal. we pushed it on the europeans and they're now doing which is with iran. push the iranians in other spheres so in a fit of hissy fit they walk away from the nuke deal and thumb their noses at us. we have to do it smart. >> bill: you allege iran as grown confident. over confident over the past many years. do you think this administration is backing them down from that attitude? >> if they keep pushing us the trump administration will back...

Tr assad's perspective and the syrian government perspective over the years, they feel that if the u.s. government wanted him out of power, he would be gone by now. the fact that he isn't gone, means they want him to stay in power. he's the least worst alternative. so the action against the air base was really a slap on the wrist. in my mind reenforced his view that the u.s. wants him to stay in power because it was just a limited proportional targeted atta attack. >> so you don't think this was you say overconfidence. was this to test president trump? >> it could be. it could be a message sen...

I think at the risk of self-congratulation, the press is rigorously going after this and it should. because it goes off into many different directions whether it has to do with the question of potential conclusion, about financial deals, about banking, the political questions about how this was handled by the obama administration. that's all very interesting not just for historianhistorians. maybe we should have a% 9/11 type independent commission. and the obama administration, president obama thought that it that would politicize the issue over much and they said no. and underneath all that r...

Independent commission. and the obama administration, president obama, finally felt that that would politicize the issue and they said no. and underneath all that reluctance was this confidence or overconfidence that hillary clinton was going to win. >> whatever was happening with disrupting the election would never be enough to -- david remnick, appreciate it. >> always. always. >> we'll be right back. stay with us. your insurance company won't replace