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Weapons, give up the ballistic missiles. he handed kim jong un a piece of paper -- actually two, one in korean, one in english -- that laid out what we wanted, and you get this piece of real estate that could have an extraordinary economic future. chris: and what did kim say? >> he walked away from it. chris: all right. meanwhile, the president seemed to absolve kim jong un of any responsibility in the torture and death of otto warmbier. take a look. >> in those prisons, in those camps you have a lot of people and some really bad things happened to otto, some really, really bad things, but he ...

Its failure, how much does it set back u.s./north korean relations? >> well, should it have been held now? no, it wasn't ready. and bolton is right that over three administrations the efforts to negotiate a good deal with north korea have failed. does it hurt u.s./north korean relations? i don't really think so. i think if you look at it in terms of north korea, they won. i mean, here is kim on his 2,000-mile trek on his train going to a state visit in vietnam after the summit, and now going back and maybe meeting with xi jinping, and he keeps all his nukes, and he's an operator on the world s...

Your interview. on this, yes, i was there. and i was also there as a young lawyer in the early '70s during the saturday night massacre when richard nixon was impeached. and two very different scenes. but in the late '90s, everything stopped, and it was viewed as totally political. and during the that time, let's understand that al-qaeda and osama bin laden grew in strength. there had been attacks right before that on the african embassy. everyone took our collective eye off of critically important national security things to focus on this impeachment, and it was damaging. yes, it was damaging ...