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$3,000 in the united states remains an obstacle for many women." is this something, sue, that's covered by insurance and other ways for women to find out if they have this gene? >> so that's really excellent question and many insurances do pay, as dr. dam check noted that there are certain red flags or things that you look for in a parent's personal history and family history that indicate that they may benefit from genetic counsel egg and testing. in most cases, insurance will cover it, but it's a little bit of a patch work around the laws about -- about the -- for the affordable care act and...

>> dr. dam check, quickly, talk to me about how or maybe even why breast cancer and ovarian cancer are so closely connected. >> well, it's a great question and i really wish that i had a good answer for you. every cell in a person's body has one of these gene mutation and one normal copy of the gene. and it's only in the cells were the second copy is lost where you now have two bad copies that turn into cancer. and why this is preferentialally breast and ovarian cancer we don't really know. we know there are other risks, prostate cancer, pancreatic cancer but dominated by breast and ovarian ri...

There was almost a ten-minute stretch where there was actually not a question asked. there seems to be a lot of speechism fyiment ng, a lot of grandstanding. how productive was the exercise itself? >> let me tell you, melvin where this is going. they are going to try to tie this stuff in the internal revenue service to the implementation of the affordable care act. the real target for the republicans is stopping the implementation of the president's obama care and use it because the irs is the one that's going to determine whether or not you're entitled to a subsidy or whether a small business...

Philosophies as the basis for government actions, which is certainly what is suspected by many as having taken place in the irs scandal that is unfolding before us now. >> steve miller is going to be testifying before congress again next week. this time, before the house oversight question, which you sit on. what would you lake to hear there that you did not hear yesterday? >> i'm interested in finding more about -- we know what happened now and now we are beginning to appreciate that steve millers a testimony created contradictions about whether he had appropriately informed congress when ask...

Unknowns, there is, of course, the question of how do they make this stick in how do they shift the conversation? we saw president obama try do that in his weekly address. americans are quite frustrated by. this the president has a limited amount of time to enact his second term agenda. to so it is not clear they will be successful at shifting the conversation hand republicans really digging in their heels. they have vowed to broaden the scope of the irs investigation. >> elise, white gop is digging in its heels what are you hearing from democrats on the hill? what are they saying specifically...