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Proffer to federal investigators, and that's an offer of information in return in his mind for maybe immunity or a good deal. and so he knows that the walls are closing in for him. and he's not the only one. you have sydney powell, everyone in team crazy, michael flynn, the overstock guy, patrick byrne, they're all liable to be indicted by jack smith. because they got into the white house and they tried to convince the president at the time, donald trump, to impose martial law into use military to seize the voting machines. so what you're talking about here is the potential violation of federa...

I want to start with you. we just learned that -- trump lawyers like giuliani reportedly a focus for jack smith right now. meanwhile we just learned that a d. c.-based disciplinary panel is calling for giuliani to be disbarred over his quote, utter disregard for the facts in his election fraud claims. that will be decided by the d. c. court of appeals. between this, jack smith's probe, just how much legal trouble is rudy giuliani in? >> a whole lot. what a fall for america's mayor, what a fall for the u. s. attorney. he's now resembling the people he wants prosecuted. and he gave this lengthy ...

Stooges that are in the room, mike flynn, sydney powell and the overstock guy, patrick byrne, these plans are preposterous. you can't possibly declare martial law. you don't have the authority to have military come in and sees these voting machines. and so when you have the grown-up saying that this is what is going on, you then have trump having knowledge, and understanding what is going on, so at that point what does he do? now you have that tweet, and that is central to his state of mind. what is his intent here? these other plans didn't work. i still want to lie, i still want to cheat, i s...

History. did he, in fact, in his words, diffuse the situation? >> well, as you know, our rules don't allow us to reveal the testimony. so i'm going to live by the rules. >> you have to give us a little something about the overstock guy. >> we have seen -- well, in due course we will. obviously, we've got ample testimony from other -- very credible witnesses about the unhinged nature of that meeting. the white house counsel and others were present. and to say it was benign i think would not hold water. >> where does the committee stand in terms of asking the former president for interviews for ...

All over. >> he's the guy at the crux of history? did he, in his words, diffuse the situation? >> as you know, our rules don't allow us to reveal the testimony, so i'm going to live by the rules. >> you've got to give us a little something about the overstock guy. >> in due course, we will. obviously we've got ample testimony from other very credible witnesses about the unhinged nature of that meeting, the white house counsel and others who were present. to say it was benign, i think, would not hold water. >> where does the committee stand in terms of potentially asking the former vice preside...