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Certainly president when he became president. the fact that iran and north korea have not responded makes our case in a way. if you look at north korea, for example, we now have a very clear understanding with the other members of the six-party talks led by china, that north korea cannot be permitted to just go on its own course, that it has to be pressured to come back into this framework to try to get to the denukization of the peninsula. with iran, a lot of countries were on the sidelines. their attitude was, the united states are hurling insults, they're not really willing to have any dipl...

States are hurling insults, they're not really willing to have any diplomatic engagement. we said, okay, fine, we're willing. we stretched out our hand. the president made extraordinary efforts. it was the iranians who refused. that has brought more people to the table. we have unity in what's called the p5-plus-1, they are meeting in new york as we speak to begin the hard process of coming up with the language of a resolution. >> you don't think the u.s. would have to go it alone on sanctions before going to the united nations? >> no, i don't. >> you say there's been all this unity. there's b...