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Trying to get -- i hate to spread things or know as the story is unfolding. so as i was getting it from the desk and it looked all clear, people around me were getting twitters from other people saying it looks like it was a false alarm. so everybody kind of started getting it at, not the same time, i probably had it earlier, but i didn't want to go out on a tangent. >> kevin barron, if you are still on the phone with me, because you said hawaii is pretty prepared for something like this. explain what you mean there? how prepared is hawaii? >> i meant that u.s. military has started to take new...

Former chairman jcs mike mullen, who said we're probably closer to some sort of an encounter, military encounter with the north koreans than we have been for some time. >> because the tweets like this? >> because of statements like that. having said this, being very old, i was around in 1976 for the tree cutting incident, where north korean soldiers came into the dmz and killed two of our shoulde soldiers with axes. i was a young staff officer at the pacific command headquarters at the time. and the sense of imminence of war was more palpable then than it is today. the problem was it was more ...

For some time. >> because the tweets like this? >> because of statements like that. having said this, being very old, i was around in 1976 for the tree cutting incident, where north korean soldiers came into the dmz and killed two of our soldiers with axes. i was a young staff officer at the pacific command headquarters at the time. and the sense of imminence of war was more palpable then than it is today. the problem was it was more rhetorical than physical, which it was then. that's a concern, because if we're not careful, we'll talk ourselves into a very serious confrontation. >> i don't wa...

Force, as an intelligence officer, serving at pacific command headquarters. and i found then the eminence of war feeling a lot more predominant then than the situation we have today, if that's any kind of a calming influence. >> so, that's one of the things we've been wondering about this morning. this administration has gone out of its way to tee up this situation as demanding attention and urgency right now. and that gets a lot of accolades, politically. you know, that the trump administration is taking this on. but to what end, in your -- from your perspective, mr. clapper? because if it's ...