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With a few irregularities it says more about you than mr. horowitz. how the hell did this whole thing start? what got us here today? they opened up a counter intelligence investigation in july. we know the russians are messing in our elections. and it was the russians, ladies and gentlemen, who stole the democratic national committee emails, pods take's emails and screwed around with hillary clinton. it was the russians. they're coming after us again. so to be concerned that the russians are messing with presidential campaigns was a legitimate concern. they looked around at the trump campaign ...

Far, is it still -- do you still stand by your statement that the campaign was spied upon? >> oh it was clearly spied upon. that's what electronic surveillance is. i think wiring people up to go in and talk to people and make recordings of their conversations is spying. i think going through people's emails, which they did as a result of the fisa warrant, they went through everything. >> sandra: to martha now. i know you had a chance to talk to carter page last night. he penned a piece in the "wall street journal." f.b.i. spying ruined by good name. he writes about his identity accused to a se...

In an email exchange they say yes, he is. what does mr. klein smith do? he alters the email to say no, he is not. and you caught him. i don't know how you caught him, because you got to dig into this email chain. it would be like getting a lab report from the f.b.i., the fingerprints don't match and the agent says they do. that's how bad this is. so now let me tell you a little bit about mr. klein smith if i can find it. this is the lawyer supervising the fisa warrant process, the guy that altered this c.i.a. email because he didn't want the court to know that carter page actually was a source...

Next time they take the law in their own hands. mr. klein smith, six months after being told the dossier is a bunch of garbage klein smith alters an email from the c.i.a. to change it from he is to he is not because if they had told the court that page was working for the c.i.a., it explains the contact in the dossier. mr. klein smith had a chance in his mind to make things right and he took it. why did he take the law in his own hands? why did he doctor the email? did it have anything to do with the way he sees donald trump's presidency? you know what? it really doesn't matter what he was thi...

The story, his story continues to unveil itself in such a stunning and i think shocking way in many regards. the sort of takeaway here is that he was represented as being, quote, not a source. now you go back in carter page's history. there were times when he was working as a source for c.i.a., f.b.i., getting them information and passing it along to them as sort of a clandestine human source. yet when the fisa application was put forth and all these suggestions were made that he was in these sort of questionable relationships and discussions with russians, one of the f.b.i. lawyers according ...