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Transparency in this system. nobody really knows how medicare for all would roll out but i don't think it's a gamble we want to take. steve: sure. one of the reasons that the democrats took the house in the last election was the fact they were talking about the republicans, if they win, they are going to take away your healthcare choices. now, the president is trying to get in front of this. the question is this enough? >> you know, i have watched him. in the very beginning this administration came out with a reform to improve choice and competition in healthcare. 114 page document. i read thi...

>> even the nature of the defense we've seen from republicans, republicans are not coming out to actually defend the president's conduct here. even people who are inclined to be -- they're lobbing criticism at the democrats, they're saying i hadn't read it, this only 8 1/2 page document, they're claiming they haven't read it. even mitch mcconnell said he thought it was laughable that this was impeachable. the white house is putting out these talking points and trying to get ahead of this story, saying no, nothing the president did was wrong, we aren't seeing republicans willing to take that st...

Vehicle you you should b-- obst. mark: i want to dig in on this one step further. you hear in media and in left and democrats say that but for the two opinions, from officing wellegal counsel that you can't indict a sitting president. they tried to get mueller to say that, but he would not, i have a different take, they fought that they had a -- thought they had a case for obstruction. that 500 page document, that is not really a legal document, it is just a big document. with the kitchen sink. nothing would have stopped them from saying we recommend are in attorney general you waive these dec...

General speaks, he would have firsthand knowledge of the evidence before he speaks and utters a word about whether or not he is going to charge a crime. but this attorney general failed to do it. and clearly, it is because he thinks of himself as the attorney of the president instead of the people's attorney. and i think that's disqualifying. >> just to put a sharp point on it, it seems to me that he overruled, he overruled mueller. he said basically he can't exonerate the president on obstruction. i'll do it. and it seems to me that he did that as you pointed out without going into the eviden...

That before that attorney general speaks, he would have firsthand knowledge of the evidence before he speaks and utters a word about whether or not he is going to charge a crime. but this attorney general failed to do it. and clearly, it is because he thinks of himself as the attorney of the president instead of the people's attorney. and i think that's disqualifying. >> just to put a sharp point on it, it seems to me that he overruled, he overruled mueller. he said basically he can't exonerate the president on obstruction. i'll do it. and it seems to me that he did that as you pointed out wit...