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Attorney general of anything. but let's just say he did lie. let's just say he told congress he didn't know anything about it and he did. and that's why is he not releasing the documents. in the end, it gets proven that he did lie, it doesn't matter, does it? >> when you say in the end, bill, you are assuming that whatever document or whatever it is that establishes. >> it got leaked to you. all right. that would be a problem. and, look, i don't think -- i think he doesn't want to be cited for contempt. it's embarrassing as a criminal matter or as -- it is not going anywhere. i think, you know...

And i'm not accusing the attorney general of anything. but let's just say he did lie. let's just say he told congress he didn't know anything about it and he did. and that's why is he not releasing the documents. in the end, it gets proven that he did lie, it doesn't matter, does it? >> when you say in the end, bill, you are assuming that whatever document or whatever it is that establishes. >> it got leaked to you. all right. that would be a problem. and, look, i don't think -- i think he doesn't want to be cited for contempt. it's embarrassing as a criminal matter or as -- it is not going an...

>> bill: our pal brit has been listening to the condoleezza rice interview. he joins us from washington. so you know all of these guys, and dr. rice, a long long time. i assume you are familiar with all their books. >> i am. >> bill: what disturbs me about this whole thing is that i believe that iraq is in trouble. i do. just from the reports that we're getting out of there. i think when the last u.s. soldiers get out in december, bad things are very likely to happen in that country. what do you say to the military men and women, the families who lost and have people back with no arms and legs...

>> bill: our pal brit has been listening to the condoleezza rice interview. he joins us from washington. so you know all of these guys, and dr. rice, a long long time. i assume you are familiar with all their books. >> i am. >> bill: what disturbs me about this whole thing is that i believe that iraq is in trouble. i do. just from the reports that we're getting out of there. i think when the last u.s. soldiers get out in december, bad things are very likely to happen in that country. what do you say to the military men and women, the families who lost and have people back with no arms and legs...

>> bill: our pal brit has been listening to the condoleezza rice interview. he joins us from washington. so you know all of these guys, and dr. rice, a long long time. i assume you are familiar with all their books. >> i am. >> bill: what disturbs me about this whole thing is that i believe that iraq is in trouble. i do. just from the reports that we're getting out of there. i think when the last u.s. soldiers get out in december, bad things are very likely to happen in that country. what do you say to the military men and women, the families who lost and have people back with no arms and legs...