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Border? >> chris, i can't pretend to know what is in rick perry's mind, but i do know he's running for at in a very crowded republican primary field that he was stung by the issue of immigration in 2012, vis-a-vis the texas dream act, and so he's going to talk tough on this issue and and i don't think he really believes that but now k it's going to rile up his base. >> it was a key moment in the last presidential primary. this is rick perry defending texas' decision to extend in-state tuition to the undocumented children in state if they qualified for college. take a listen. >> if you say that...

Marijuana and racial disparities. they never mention those types of things. it's quite disturbing for me. we ruin more people's lives that way than what they talk about. >> well, if i could -- >> please. >> so, my record tells a different story, carl. so if you bother to see my record, i was a principle opponent for expungement, drug courts, alternative sentencing. i agree with you, carl, there is a disproportionate number of minorities. that applies to all crimes. our criminal justice system disproportionately impacts people of color. that doesn't mean that, you know, having a drug policy is ...

For at in a very crowded republican primary field that he was stung by the issue of immigration in 2012, vis-a-vis the texas dream act, and so he's going to talk tough on this issue and and i don't think he really believes that but knows it's going to rile up his base. >> it was a key moment in the last presidential primary. this is rick perry defending texas' decision to extend in-state tuition to the undocumented children in state if they qualified for college. take a listen. >> if you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than they've been ...

Let me ask it another way. is there bias at the three broadcast networks? >> i think they're must like other networks whereby there's a big mix. but i think it's sometimes that comes to play. i wouldn't say that was my primary issue and the reason i left. >> mika? >> so did they let you write this book? >> well, the book is now being written. so they don't have any say in it. >> because pitching stories and i know because i went through it during my it girl time. you hitch stories that you think will rate. stories that you think they think will rate. you also pitch stories you think are really...

Democrats who were running away from a piece of legislation they voted for. would you if you were a democrat suggest to other democrats that running away from the affordable care act is probably the wrong move. they need to embrace it? >> i would run into the storm. i'd run headlong into it. particularly given the trend lines right now one it's almost a 50/50 right now. m but the facts of the matter is the democrats should run into it. you're going to get in certain states other issues to buffer that particular concern on health care. you can offset it with other issues. so if you allow the ga...