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Aggressive posture than jeffrey is. certainly the classic notion is do something or -- but here the benefit of the blackmail would be the tremendous media power. that is a thing of great value. that's the benefit they're trying to get. i think jeff makes a very good argument for their defense counsel, that they were trying to make sure there wasn't any inaccurate information published, but usually you don't make sure of that by threatening to release dirty pictures. these are the facts, you got them wrong, but now here's secret pictures and texts between you and muir mistress. >> okay. so jeff...

Damaging to trump. in some ways that was kind of a verbal discussion of what we could imagine a safe looking like. a safe full of like these damaging stories that ami gathered on trump. there's been questions. what are those stories? what else did ami have. what else did thaey help the presidential candidate cover up? we know in 2015, i did reporting on what were some of the things that they were trying to cover up. as early as 2015 there was a hedge fund manager with a picture of trump with a bare breasted woman and he steered this guy to ami. there was also reports of a doorman at trump towe...