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Happening, maybe not quite as much. you can say there's been some effort there. if john kelly, a general, who donald trump respects, can't come in and get things together, is there anybody on planet earth who can do the job adequately of chief of staff. >> you mentioned the paper flow. who was responsible for the paper flow, rob porter. now months ago, the fbi told the white house that there were credible accusations of spousal abuse against this person who was responsible for sending highly classified information in some cases to the president's desk. porter, who was a smart guy was reading t...

Effort there. if john kelly, a general, who donald trump respects, can't come in and get things together, is there anybody on planet earth who can do the job adequately of chief of staff. >> you mentioned the paper flow. who was responsible for the paper flow, rob porter. now months ago, the fbi told the white house that there were credible accusations of spousal abuse against this person who was responsible for sending highly classified information in some cases to the president's desk. porter, who was a smart guy was reading them, i'm not sure the president was, so this is a person of enormo...

He's irgaarrogant and he plays set of rules that they don't think the rules apply to them. >> john kelly was-to-supposed to come in and shape everything up. by all accounts he's cleaned up the reporting structure in the white house, leaks are happening, maybe not quite as much. you can say there's been some effort there. if john kelly, a general, who donald trump respects, can't come in and get things together, is there anybody on planet earth who can do the job adequately of chief of staff. >> you mentioned the paper flow. who was responsible for the paper flow, rob porter. now months ago, th...

Process about senior staff, not just the allegations themselves, continue to become a national news story. why did the white house choose to stand by porter during the past few months? yes porter said the allegations were lost, but where was the due diligence about these allegations, about checking in with the fbi, about the real status of porter? because porter was not just a senior staffer, he was someone close to the president of the united states, controlling paper flow to the chief executive of our country day in, day out. >> where's the dual die diligen? if he's saying these are just all...

Check in this kind of a job knows they're going to interview people like this. >> do they need to admit that they made a mistake? >> you have to disclose on your forms and frankly to your superiors. this is in my background. >> do they need to admit they made mistakes, scott? if so, does kelly need to own it and should he keep his job? >> yeah, look, i think at the end of the day, they're not going to be able to skirt around the timeline. the timeline is going to have to come out. they'll have to be transparent about this. you can make mistakes in judgment. it does happen. this is a pretty big...