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elections transparent and secure. okay so these companies say their machines are accurately tested. so where's the disconnect? >> so a couple of things. first, when the testing happens, it's often in a setting where if there was an issue with the machine, if there's a flaw in the machine, you wouldn't necessarily know that it had been exploited. so with electronic machines as a popular type of machine called a dre machine, it's used in a lot of states, and you can add on a feature to produce a paper record. if you don't have that feature, and the software is tampered with, there's essential...

Himself that we should be worried about. a year ago, it should have been a call to arms. we knew in august of '16 that my state's board of election was hacked by the russians. since then, we know that it's several dozen. and as as director comey said, they're coming back. we have 13 states that don't even have a paper record to know that we've been hacked. our equipment is 10 to 12 years old. it cannot meet the demands of modern cybersecurity. we are extraordinarily vulnerable. we need to buy new equipment to attack from future attacks. the president's intransigence and obstruction has not onl...

Listen, i want to discuss that, but quickly, were you listening to the conversation before about the president insisting that he has never denied, you know, that russia influenced the election, and then i gave examples of ways that he did deny it. do you think he's doing enough to protect our electoral process? >> you missed my favorite quote when he said, it could have been a guy in jersey, a big guy in jersey. look, it's more than the president just protecting himself that we should be worried about. a year ago, it should have been a call to arms. we knew in august of '16 that my state's boa...

Of bowing and kissing rings and appeasement. here's a quote from "the new york times" describing reagan's speech. "in the long run, however, the greater danger lies in mr. reagan's vision of the superpower relationship as good versus evil, and his near proclamation of holy war against an evil empire." it turns out the so-called paper record, just like the rest of the liberal media, was completely wrong. if reagan followed the media's advice, the soviet union might still be standing. next, remember george w. bush. he labeled, rightly so, iran, iraq, and north korea, the axis of evil. you may re...

And the contrast there between these two candidates. doug jones is known for prosecuting the kkk and roy moore is now known for dating underage girls. i mean the contrast there could not be any more stark. so i think it's appalling that the gop is standing with roy moore, especially the alabama gop, saying they don't even care if he's guilty. it's bad enough that the republicans in washington are pretending that they don't know whether or not he did what he did. but i think the whole party is going to be tarred with that. and the democrats get to run with a really principled man who is a membe...