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Games in 2013. talk to us about the major differences that you see five years later and how significant is the absence of long-range missiles in that celebration? >> reporter: well, rosemary, certainly from the mass games point of view, it was very different five years ago when i was in pyongyang. it was definitely a military message. at that point, of course, it wasn't the 70th an verizon wirelessery of the founding of the nation like this time around. then it was the end of the korean war, a day which north korea calls victory day as they tell their people they won that war. it was inevitabl...

Saw and what he is recently seeing leaving the country and the participation at the olympics, the wheel has started to turn. the lights are on a cross the line over in south korea, certainly he sees that, his lights are not on. >> absolutely, i think it's very encouraging because in the parade itself, one of the floats focused on solar power and wind power. while i was there there was no electricity virtually anywhere, even the stop lights didn't work. but there was no traffic so that made it easy. but over and over again, step-by-step, reduction and tension, the success of donald trump and hi...