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Deals cooperating with mueller and given hours of testimony to the senate intelligence committee and worked very closely with michael cohen. kind of this idea that he's moving his net closer and closer to donald trump to get to individuals like michael ckchae that have a breathe of deals he might have been involved with with the on going probe. >> your reporting suggests pull manafort is still coming under heat from these investigators. what are they looking at and does it appear at this point his only hope could be a pardon? >> well, i think when you look at the pardon issue, that's complicat...

Pardoning manafort and flynn, ty cobb who is still on the legal team, trump's legal team, here's what he had to say in response to the story in your paper. i've only been asked by pardons by the president and have routinely responded on the record that no pardons are under discussion or consideration at the white house. why is this story a big deal? >> this is really centers around the question of obstruction of justice and whether or not the president took actions that he hoped would stop or bring an end to the investigation that of him and his associates and the question -- so the question i...

Son. pardon jared, if he ends up in trouble. others say it's gone too far. too far along. could create a constitutional crisis if he starts pardoning people in the midst of the mueller probe? >> right. the two sides of the coin that we see on the pardon issue. can he issue pardons? absolutely can. he has the power to pardon anyone, except for himself in the context of an impeachment proceeding. would he precipitate a constitutional crisis at this point if he started to give pardons? you know, this isn't a typical presidential pardon where you issue pardons in unique circumstances in the issue ...

Chair, orrin hatch and myself, ranking democrat, agreeing to set in motion a process to obtain the tax return, have the finance committee look it over if get them to go along, yes would be a policy for making them public. i say respectfully, not been able to get republican support. >> it's a concrete action they can take if concerned where this is headed. also about the president's power to pardon federal crimes is well nigh absolute, if he were to do it and many think that's manafort's angle here, what could congress or people do? >> i feel this pardon issue is not unlike firing bob mueller. ...

Also about the president's power to pardon federal crimes is well nigh absolute, if he were to do it and many think that's manafort's angle here, what could congress or people do? >> i feel this pardon issue is not unlike firing bob mueller. if you're even looking at that, thinking about the pardon process at this point, i think you're going to be triggering a constitutional crisis, i think would be a big mistake. many republicans in the senate have said that they would be for bob mueller. i've been telling them, speak out right now, it's going to be important to protect bob mueller's right to...