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The only standard for firing is really misconduct and i don't think there's any misconduct mueller is going to engage in. i think there's a lot of bullying and threatening but there's no real legal there, there, at the end of it. >> okay. >> i can say one other thing, if i may, don. on the pardon question that you were just talking with jeffrey toobin about, i agree with jeffrey except to add one additional thing which is under the code of federal regulations that govern mueller's conduct here, he has to submit a report to the attorney general and the attorney general has to give that report t...

Hand delivered. alex? >> all right. jeff bennett at the white house, go inside, my friend. you need not stand any longer in the rain for us. appreciate it. joining me now, erin mcpike and sean sullivan, congressional reporter for "the washington post." welcome to you both. sean, this whole debate is about the president pardoning himself. it started with the leaked confidential memo that was sent to bob mueller by the president's legal team back in january. beyond the pardon question, what do you think are the most critical aspects of this? >> well, it's interesting. when you look at what the a...

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