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Say we don't need a debate. we don't want to discuss this. it's not bipartisan to bring it on the floor. let the amendments flow once the bill is on the floor and everyone has an equal chance. >> they're expert and sticking very effective hands in the ears so they don't hear any of it. correct me on the other point -- blocking a straight up and down vote so they can negotiate behind closed doors, does that sound at all what the republicans say they want in those days in this process? >> that's what they've done. and up to the obstructionism and quantify it any way you want, january '09 to now,...

Good to see you tonight, senator. >> good to be back. >> can your party begin the vote to end this debate without gutting reform? oh. >> they're embarrassed by it. you heard mitch mcconnell, the cynics outdid mitch mcconnell and jim bunning combined. you look at this, he's saying go back to the backroom, cut a deal, something bipartisan, bring it out in the open and depate it. bring it out in the open now and debate it. this goes back to december, john boehner met with 100 bank lobbyists to figure out how to kill the bill. the head of the senate campaign committee went to new york to meet with...

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With fixed news worth $1 and her upcoming reality show, a brand name, with tlc. turn now to david weigle. good evening, keith. >> you've done your reports. the possible perjury issue. what have you found? >> i hate to wreck it for you. we need to see the transcript, but it doesn't sound like she trapped herself in anything here. wade davies was prohibited from taking it much further from the questions about what -- you know, the e-mails that were sent, they didn't ask about previously. she stuck to saying it was political e-mails, e-mails about the governor's mansion, the e-mails that you were...

Days later t may be more viscerally felt as an impact than the whole health care debate was. is it resonating to any degree like that in washington? >> well, to some extent. let me also say that the congressman beared the lead there, the fact that latinos sitting around eating bagels really says everything you need to know about what america's supposed to be. >> that's it. >> but the fact is while they're hearing the noise in washington, my sense from reporting this afternoon up on the hill, keith, is that the democratic leadership, even while robert gibbs is down at the white house pointing o...