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Experience and his experience in the whole campaign, when he was with the rnc and when he was working on helping elect mr. trump. he did a very good job. obviously he helped plut in winning the election. i have every faith he'll move forward as a press secretary. >> ed, will we ever hear the term alternative facts again? >> i don't know whether we'll hear it from us. you guys seem to be focused on it a little bit. >> kellyanne conway said it. >> it's been every segment so far this morning rather than trying to move forward and get jobs for americans and peace and security. >> ed, do you unders...

Advisory boards and mr. phillip -- help me say your name. >> staff righter for the new yorker. one thing we got settled tonight. good. mr. newt gingric, former speaker of the house and co-host of cross fire. good to have you, newt. fran, help me with this. you've been guiding me through situations for a long time. the idea intelligence is not fact, to hear that said to the american people tor, to hear th burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, which we don't like in criminal trials, surprising to you. >> it was said by secretary rumsfeld and tony blanken not well, frankly. there are assessm...

That's all required. that's state level issue. i don'i don't like the fact thae have a walk-in of presidential influence in this because it does have an effect. when you add that to the combined efforts of sharpton, jackson, madison, all of them that go down there and lead the march and change the narrative for the nation, they fail to do on trayvon's side what you do in crisis management. they put out this an gellic figure. we see a 12-year-old picture. as other facts flow out, we now see a different narrative. the country is basically look at this, and this is a backlash possibility for tray...

That's state level issue. i don'i don't like the fact thae have a walk-in of presidential influence in this because it does have an effect. when you add that to the combined efforts of sharpton, jackson, madison, all of them that go down there and lead the march and change the narrative for the nation, they fail to do on trayvon's side what you do in crisis management. they put out this an gellic figure. we see a 12-year-old picture. as other facts flow out, we now see a different narrative. the country is basically look at this, and this is a backlash possibility for trayvon's side, if you wi...

Sean spicer, our press secretary gave alternative facts to that. >> wait a minute. alternative facts? >> reporter: conway also saying trump will never release his tax returns. >> he's not going to release his tax returns. we litigated this all through the election. >> reporter: late sunday walking back her comment, asserting the president is still under audit and has been advised not to release his taxes. she still did not clarify whether they will ever be released. this as a liberal ethics group says they will do the president, alleging mr. trump is receiving illegal payments from foreign gov...