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give us a sense of how this compounds the fight over voting rights legislation among lawmakers here in washington who are working in that building behind you. democrats have to figure out what to do about the filibuster so that the 60 vote threshold becomes 51. i have talked to democrats who say if they don t use the fact that they are in the majority to enact voting rights legislation, it will be a failure. reporter: that s a conversation you had with one congressman. we will play that in a second. really, what this does is what it has done when florida has gone through legislation like this. it revives the conversation about why democrats right now aren t governing as if they have the majority, getting rid of the filibuster and doing things by majority. the congressman put it really well. listen to how he said it. if these things are important enough to them that they are going to bend the rules, then why the hell are we not doing the same thing? ....
To stand up and say that s inappropriate. we shouldn t be doing that. i wish we as a party and elected officials would do more of that. or when particularly ugly conspiracy stories come out or fake news, we ought to say that s not right. i cannot articulate how i guess relief is the best way to describe how i feel listening to that. and i wonder if jeff flake has opened the door for more republicans to talk about how a lot of people who aren t governing in the time of trump feel about what president trump has done to the republican party. that s right. there s certainly a deal of never trumpers who are there. john kasich has come out repeatedly against the president. not only his policies but how he s carried himself. between that and we are seeing with vice president pence who of course no one expects to make a primary run at the president when the president will run again, but there are possibilities this could be a wide open field in 2020. ....
Supported him initialing that s his real risk. that s the biggest question. i think he has more latitude than most politicians. they tlebtd him. they elected the strength tloirngs, the man. even a lot of them will tell you he s not going to build a wall, be tough on immigration. how much latitude is the defining question. it s unclear, what you said in terms of what they believe he would do or whether or not they liked that he said it. it is unclear what they do expect. you would imagine that they expect something materially in their lives to change. their lives to get better. their neighborhoods to get better. their income to get better. it s unclear how he even does that. what s his job plans. he talks about infrastructure. how do the republicans go along with that. so, you know, what s left for trump to do after you untanning tell slogans that aren t governing. he s not draining the swamp. ....
I remember your ads were all about hope and change and the same idea about president obama. has he asked you any advice about how to run for a second term on the merits of your service rather than hope? well, luke, let me first say i love axelrod, but i am a hopeful person. that was not a that was not something that i came up with in order to run. i ran because for a long time we ve had people who seek public office who aren t governing for the long term. it s a similar issue we see in much of business today which is where i ve come from where we manage for the next quarter, and i see in government that there s an awful lot of government for the next election psyche will or the next news cycle and we re making the hard decisions now that will make us better over time. the reason i ran and the reason the president ran the first time is because he s prepared and i am prepared to confront those big issues that serve our generational responsibility for ....