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>> it should be the parents above all, which is why in this case i would allow them to take the child even though if it were mine i wouldn't. or secondarily, if it can't be the parents, or if the parents aren't present, then the courts of your own system, your own society. but to rely on some convention nobody's ever heard of drawn up by bureaucrats who lived on a different planet is absurd. i think that's an absurdity introduced here. the british are serious about how to deal with this, but this is the one sign of unseriousness. >> tucker: i've got a key decision to make about my chilton, one...

Appropriate. when you want to question someone, and you don't want to give the lawyers a chance to you know craft answers that donald trump might not even read much less write. >> if the president refuses to do this interview he could be subpoena. >> absolutely. >> and probably would i assume. >> that is the leverage that mueller has here. >> and if responding to a subpoena in front of a grand jury and the lawyers aren't present. >> that is correct. the president is in a unique position. he is not like any other witness. bill clinton gave grand jury testimony of a kind but he did it by video a...