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I think the director was very -- part of the process today was to start that pass-back process he talked about where we're going to the various departments, whether it's hud or d.o.t., giving them that top line number and getting back. i don't want to get into a specific number with you before we get too far down the process. i think that's a conversation we're going to have with the agencies and then we will have subsequently with congress when they start travel drafting their resolution. >> i do have questions. he talked about health care. he talked about education and he talked about cri an...

My question is he didn't necessarily say it wasn't going to cut from it. if it doesn't cut to it, it could be hundreds of billions in deficit. i'm curious -- >> correct me if i'm wrong, he basically made it very clear, it doesn't add to the projected baseline deficit. so, that continues to be the goal. i think as we continue to work through this process of pass back, it can work both ways. we could identify further savings and reductions through working with the agencies and departments. but we're going to make sure that the top-line number we maintain and is close to that as possible. as we g...

Numbers will go out to the agencies today in a process we describe as pass back, reports back will be due in the next few days and we will spend the next week or so it working on final budget blueprint and we expect to have that number to congress by march 16th. that puts us on schedule for a full budget including all of the things i mention which does not include with all the larger policy issues in the first part of may. with that, i will take a couple questions. >> reporter: in order to get to your topline on the rest of the discretionary budget, if you are not going to touch veterans benef...

That actually includes an offer of amnesty to snoed dn. roll it. >> he's already said, if i got amnesty, i would come back. given the potential damage to national security, what would your thought on making a deal be? >> so my personal view is, yes, it's worth having a conversation about. i would need assurances that the remainder of the data could be secured, and my bar for those assurances would be very high, more than just an assertion on his part. >> is that a unanimous feeling? >> it's not unanimous. >> not unanimous. let me move on to spell this out. this would mean a free pass back to t...

After -- or baggage to go after. if there is going to be a political attack it will be from when he was working in business. and that's the way the game is played. to say that jesse jackson got a pass back in 1984 and 1988 -- >> have i to move on, but jesse jackson got a lot of passes. he got passes in terms of getting money. he basically -- his career is a pass. >> tell me how a baptist preacher without a church and no job is a multimillionaire. >> he is not a credible threat. but cain is a credible threat. >> there is an argument whether he is a credible threat. somebody who doesn't know who...