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Having this conversation, we would be debating much bigger issues, much bigger spending issues, if the democrats had simply done what the constitution asked them to do and a pass a budget. >> let me just tell you, i'm certainly not embarrassed by it what was accomplished in the 111th congress. i think many historic things were. my understanding, although you know neither mr. west nor myself were here was that budgets were passed out of the house, but they got stuck in the senate. i just have to tell you, though, i might be a new member of congress, but this feels like groundhog day to me, beca...

I know the political ramifications for republicans because he was there when republicans got the blame, you know, from here to eternity for the last step down in the mid 1990 sxz then president clinton was one who benefitted from it. he absolutely knows the problems here. that is why both sides, john says, at this late hour they continue to work on this long-term bill to fund the government for the rest of this fiscal year. that is their focus. both sides say that they have in their back pocket the possibility -- probability, i would say, of passing something to keep the government running so ...

That he means it. this really is -- it's not just the first dance that he is having across the rotunda with the democratic leader, harry reid. it's the first dance he is having with his fellow republicans, and he needs to make it very clear. he is going to do his best now because this is just, as you said, tiddl yr winks. it's just a few billion dollars that they're haggling over, but that's just the beginning of the very, very important long-term fight that he is going to have to fight again over the debt ceiling, over the fact that they have this budget out there that nobody thinks it's goin...

Extreme. not only extreme but insane. >> a lot of what you wrote and said makes sense, but you cannot do it in a day that you want to commit. before this, you know, whole temporary spending measure dies down and the government could shut down on april 8th. having said that, senator, if you get cuts in the $60 billion or $65 billion close to what republicans want, is that enough get your vote to at least get the government through the rest of the box? >>guest: as far as finishing out the year, i would like us to pass a budget the house has passed. i voted for it one. that should be the starting...

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