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Middle who might not be that concerned about union rights but are concerned about whether their governor is an ethical person, whether he's working within the law, and frankly whether he's hiring people that are ethical and work within the law. so it does broaden the concerns about scott walker. >> john nichols, great to have you with us. it's a story to follow, and it's just another chapter in wisconsin politics. it just never stops. thanks so much. governor mitch daniels is hoping to take out unions in indiana. state democratic leader pat bauer is frying to sttrying to governor. it never sto...

Middle who might not be that concerned about union rights but are concerned about whether their governor is an ethical person, whether he's working within the law, and frankly whether he's hiring people that are ethical and work within the law. so it does broaden the concerns about scott walker. >> john nichols, great to have you with us. it's a story to follow, and it's just another chapter in wisconsin politics. it just never stops. thanks so much. governor mitch daniels is hoping to take out unions in indiana. state democratic leader pat bauer is trying to stop the governor. it never stops ...

Business. >> joining me now is pat bauer, indiana house democratic leader. mr. bauer, good to have you with us tonight. how long -- >> hi, ed. >> you bet. how long can you keep this up? i mean, will you continue to stall this until people put pressure on lawmakers, telling them they're doing the wrong thing? what's the game plan here? >> we can only try, ed, one day longer, one day stronger. but there's a lot of pressure on my members. they manage to do it for five weeks. but that cost them quite a bit in fines and other trouble. but we've had a time for the people to learn about our right to ...

Various committees but once again, not enough to conduct business. >> joining me now is pat bauer, indiana house democratic leader. mr. bauer, good to have you with us tonight. how long -- >> hi, ed. >> you bet. how long can you keep this up? i mean, will you continue to stall this until people put pressure on lawmakers, telling them they're doing the wrong thing? what's the game plan here? >> we can only try, ed, one day longer, one day stronger. but there's a lot of pressure on my members. they manage to do it for five weeks. but that cost them quite a bit in fines and other trouble. but we'...

Concerned about union rights but are concerned about whether their governor is an ethical person, whether he's working within the law, and frankly whether he's hiring people that are ethical and work within the law. so it does broaden the concerns about scott walker. >> john nichols, great to have you with us. it's a story to follow, and it's just another chapter in wisconsin politics. it just never stops. thanks so much. governor mitch daniels is hoping to take out unions in indiana. state democratic leader pat bauer is trying to stop the governor. it never stops in the midwest, does it? he j...