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>> the vice president has never had to persuade me to remain as secretary of state because i have never considered leaving this post. i serve at the appointment of the president and i'm here for as long as the president feels i can be useful to achieving his objectives. >> and then, of course, came the question about referring to the president as a moron. >> did you address the main headline of this story that you called the president a moron? if not, where do you think the reports -- >> i'm not going to deal with petty stuff like that. i mean, this is what i don't understand about washington....

That trump cabinet members memoirs will be the best ever. >> nbc reporting that rex tillerson called donald trump a, quote, moron. >> i'm not going to deal with petty stuff like that. >> he didn't deny calling the president a moron. >> the secretary did not use that type of language. he did not say that. >> made up by nbc. they just made it up. >> for the record, nbc has total confidence in its reporting. >> fake news. it was a totally phony story. >> the president can call this fake news but he himself has made it very clear that he's broken with his own secretary of state on a whole host of ...

>> joining us now, eli stokel, also with us max bood, and also with us, betty woodruff. so, max, did i just hear the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee refer to the president as chaos after his secretary of state has apparently referred to him as a moron? >> that's a pretty -- i'm sorry on the day, lawrence. i would have to say, i mean, what can you do except kind of laugh? this is like a bad reality tv show. it is like what the heck is going to happen tomorrow? i mean, any other administration this would be unbelievable. for the trump administration, it's, you know, more of th...

Staff kelly are those people that help separate our country from chaos. and i support them very much. >> joining us now, eli stokel, also with us max bood, and also with us, betty woodruff. so, max, did i just hear the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee refer to the president as chaos after his secretary of state has apparently referred to him as a moron? >> that's a pretty -- i'm sorry on the day, lawrence. i would have to say, i mean, what can you do except kind of laugh? this is like a bad reality tv show. it is like what the heck is going to happen tomorrow? i mean, any oth...

>> in an exclusive report this morning, nbc news revealed that the secretary of state referred to the president as a moron in a room full of witnesses at the pentagon. the president's response to that report today was that it was fake news. the nbc news report said tillerson's stunned a handful of senior level officials calling the president a moron after a tense two-hour long meeting in a secure room at the pentagon called the tank. according to three officials who were present or briefed on the incident. the july 20th meeting came a day after a meeting in the white house situation room on af...