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House. the idea that bill shine will be playing 3-d chess is a fantasy. the only strategy of the white house is they react to trump's pathological lying on a daily basis. again, the communications job is a joke. trump is the communications director. again, i think they're sort of girding for this -- >> that was shine's role at fox. he would sit in the office and sort of chortle along. he was the yes man to ails. now he will be the yes man to donald trump. >> tiffany, then, the strategy on the other side. the communication against that, if you had seamless communication between fox and the whit...

What i can follow from trump's life he's always lacked sympathy and empathy. when it's combined with complicated issues, the narcissism, the cruelty, the pathological lying, that combination in an individual is troubling enough. that combination in a president is down right dangerous. and we're seeing it. and the damage that donald trump is doing to the civic and political culture of this country is astonishing. i don't think we have a full grasp of that damage. it'll take a long time to both process it and eventually work our way out of it. >> what do you say to that? >> i actually think we'v...

Only to ignore it but to rally around it. so it's an ugly and disturbing picture all the way around. >> so you -- before i bring michael in here, i think it's important you just mentioned -- i just want to read this is what you tweeted today, right? it really lays out what president trump said his immigration policy reflects his character, you're right. trump's casual cruelty is a product of his near total lack of empathy and sympathy. this attitude like others, for example, pathological lying radiates throughout and begins to define an administration and a party. that's how corruption spreads...

But now most of the news media understands the challenge of having a pathological liar in the white house and "the new york times" and other newspapers who never called anything donald trump said a lie until the final weeks of the presidential campaign routinely label his statements lies. in march, i talked about the president's pathological lying in what became our most watched segment of the year online. >> the president is living in fear of reporters tonight now more than ever. he's visibly afraid of being anywhere near reporters now. since donald trump lied about president obama tapping hi...

Call a lie a lie. but now most of the news media understands the challenge of having a pathological liar in the white house and "the new york times" and other newspapers who never called anything donald trump said a lie until the final weeks of the presidential campaign routinely label his statements lies. in march, i talked about the president's pathological lying in what became our most watched segment of the year online. >> the president is living in fear of reporters tonight now more than ever. he's visibly afraid of being anywhere near reporters now. since donald trump lied about presiden...