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MSNBC Dateline October 14, 2019 07:23:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline October 14, 2019 07:23:00

Firm. you know, she just kept saying it's -- it's going to be a closed casket. nobody's going to see him. i want everyone to remember him as the lively person he was. i knew then that it couldn't have been good. >> and when i sat down with kay, she told a story filled with love and koicourage on that awf night. >> you're surrounded by evil. my insides were shaking. i was thinking about patrick. >> that was the theme of the story kay told me, how her 5-year-old son patrick was foremost on their minds. that's why kay became especially panicked when she and joe were forced to go to the bank by th...

MSNBC Dateline October 14, 2019 07:43:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline October 14, 2019 07:43:00

Grief and trauma, but also with her son patrick's. >> when patrick would ask you what happened to his father, what would you tell him? >> i tried to answer him thinking age appropriate because he was five years old. and i would say, you know, daddy had a little boo boo on his heart and he died. >> kay was still trying to protect her son just as joe had done on that terrible night. >> even when the man was dying, that's what he was doing. he was fighting for his life and trying to protect my mom and patrick. >> in the days after the murder, police were zeroing in on randy tundadore jr. when the...

MSNBC Dateline October 14, 2019 07:26:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline October 14, 2019 07:26:00

>> and he did. kay told him where to find a pair of scissors and patrick brought them to her. cutting the zip tie was difficult, but kay was finally able to do it. the 5-year-old boy had saved his mother. then she had another job for her son. >> so, i said patrick, please, just go across the street. knock on the door. mommy's going to stay here. remember your karate moves. just kick the door. >> kay saw the neighbor's door open and patrick run in. she knew he was safe. one family member taken care of. now kay was on a mission to save joe. she would not leave him behind no matter what the risk....

MSNBC Dateline October 14, 2019 07:59:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline October 14, 2019 07:59:00

Will always be here. so, like you're saying come and get me, tough guy. >> right. mm-hm. i'm not going to be fearful. he attacked us in our house which is your safest place to be. so, i started to become extremely fearless. >> but she's also struggled to put her life back together. kay's daughter says she can see the pain even as her mom holds patrick close. >> it's hard to watch my mom with patrick because you can tell they miss him and they should have him. they shouldn't have to figure it out without him. >> they still have each other. >> i believe god has a plan for us, and that's what we ...

MSNBC Dateline October 14, 2019 07:25:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Dateline October 14, 2019 07:25:00

Save his young son's life. >> patrick is now awake and he's sitting on the bed. joe says do it for daddy, just do it for daddy, just lay down and pretend you're asleep. >> do it for daddy. >> do it for daddy. >> kay says the man forced joe to go to the other side of the house. in his final moments with his attackers, kay says family was first in joe's mind. >> he starts pleading, you know i have kids, please. >> their home was on fire, the attackers had fled, and she had to get patrick and herself out of the house. but her ankles were still tied and she could barely move. desperate to find som...