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>> really? well, that's absurd. that's just absurd. >> there are those who speculate that someone else was burke. jonbenet's big brother. he sat down for his very first interview ever with dr. phil. >> what do you need to start looking for the person who actually did it? >> you know, it's been, burke didn't act right, he was smiling when he was talking. come on. burke is a wonderful young man. i'm very proud of him. >> ramsey says accusations like this motivate him to keep trying to solve the case. >> because patsy's been accused of being a murderer, because now burke has been accused, the onl...

It's extremely unusual that a district attorney not sign an indictment when a grand jury returns a true bill. >> with the charges that the grand jury had voted to indict, are they referring to a third person? >> it does appear that the theory they were looking at assumed that maybe someone other than the two ramsey parents had been involved in what happened. >> john ramsey, although well aware of the grand jury's decision, has his own opinion. >> what we were indicted for, which was nonsense, was child abuse. resulting in death. and we were told, well you didn't protect your child. and that's ...

Through the drama. >> we have a kidnapping. hurry, please. >> detectives enhanced the 911 audio. there were a few extra seconds at the end of the call after patsy thought she had hung up. >> hurry, hurry, hurry. >> patsy, patsy, patsy. patsy. >> some insisted they heard a third voice in the background. >> we do know that burke's voice is on there saying, what did you say? or what did he say or something to that nature. they lied about burke being awake at the time the 911 call was made. >> the ramseys fired back. >> some police claim they think they hear that. we would challenge the police to ...

She said she still had her tiaras and her gowns. >> patsy was once a beauty queen and had been crowned miss west virginia. john was a navy pilot and a divorced father of three children when he and patsy met. they married and had a son. >> burke was like, you know, typical boy. >> and a daughter, jonbenet. >> she was very proud that she was named after me because my name is john bennett ramsey. she had this effervescent personality like patsy. tah-dah, here i am. >> home had been atlanta, georgia, where jonbenet was born in 1990. the family moved to boulder the next year to expand john's softwa...

>> okay. >> call somebody. >> i am, honey. >> please. >> take a deep breath. >> hurry, hurry, hurry. >> patsy, patsy, patsy. patsy. >> the phone rang early at pam barday's house too. >> john said, where's michael? i said, he's out at the plane. what's wrong? what's up? he said, they've got jonbenet. she's gone, they've got her. i said, what do you mean they've got her? she's been kidnapped. >> boulder police officer fred patterson was one of the first detectives on the scene. >> it was a very rapid response once i knew what we were going to. >> i met him at the front door and told him what was...