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Protective custody pc move on his part. >> he was just saying that the other guy, johns, was doing a pc move and trying to say he owes drug money on the yard or something like that and the reason he is doing that is so that he is in the hole now, so he won't get stabbed on the yard or whatever. when he's in the hole he doesn't have contact with other inmates. if they do something in front of the cops they will be locked up and sent to the hole and they will stay here until a later date. they will have to eventually have the deal with it, but for a short time, he is safe in here. >> johns in fa...

>> hello, shiverdecker. >> how are you doing? >> i'm the deputy warden. >> how are you doing, sir? >> good. how are you? >> i've been out for the last two days straight because of this. it's not something that you can just go to the cops and say, hey, man, i feel like somebody is going to kill me. can you help me? then you're going to have a lot more problems than you've already got. sometimes you feel like, hey, somebody's going to harm you. period. you've got to harm them before they harm you, period, you know? >> all right. do me a favor. go do your guys' interviews and come up and we'll se...

His part. >> he was just saying that the other guy, johns, was doing a pc move and trying to say he owes drug money on the yard or something like that and the reason he is doing that is so that he is in the hole now, so he won't get stabbed on the yard or whatever. so if he is in the hole, he won't have contact with the inmates on the yard. if they do something in front of the cops they will be locked up and sent to the hole and they will stay here until a later date. they will have to eventually have the deal with it, but for a short time, he is safe in here. >> johns in fact did get sentence...

Right in front of the cops in the tower, right in the chow hall. so i consider that to be a protective custody pc move on his part. >> he was just saying that the other guy, johns, was doing a pc move and trying to say he owes drug money on the yard or something like that and the reason he is doing that is so that he is in the hole now, so he won't get stabbed on the yard or whatever. so if he is in the hole, he won't have contact with the inmates on the yard. if they do something in front of the cops they will be locked up and sent to the hole and they will stay here until a later date. they ...

His part. >> he was just saying that the other guy, johns, was doing a pc move and trying to say he owes drug money on the yard or something like that and the reason he is doing that is so he's in the hole now so he doesn't get stabbed on the yard or whatnot. so if he is in the hole, he won't have contact with the inmates on the yard. if they do something in front of the cops they will be locked up and sent to the hole and they will stay here until a later date. they will have to eventually have the deal with it, but for a short time, he is safe in here. >> johns in fact did get sentenced to t...