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He's saying these big pension deals are breaking the states. your reaction? your reaction. >> my reaction is then we should sit down and negotiate. that's how we solve problems in this state. not by writing bills that take our rights away to negotiate. we negotiate contracts every day and we bargain hard issues every day and we revolve issues every day. this has nothing to do with these budget issues or these pension issues. they are refusing to talk to the public sector workers and they're legislating them out of being unions. >> senator, your final response. if you could get rid of the union...

On card check provision. >> he has signed a federal executive order. >> eric: i will let you get to it? >> unicon destruction workers privilege pass. >> eric: here is the issue, we have state, local, municipalities a pension bomb ready to explode on them, some say up to $3 trillion if they don't renegotiate union mentions going forward, those contracts they there are going to be bankruptcies across the country. >> our local, municipal governments is not about the fact that there are pension issues, it's the fact that local governments governments have got to find way to share services and cons...