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Asked them about this and how it would play in the campaign. they said, look, we're still in a good position the game hasn't even started yet. we don't want to be a frunt runner if you look how last go around played out. interesting, though jose how quickly things can change in politics. chris christie was the most coveted endorsement you could have gotten. all the other candidates were saying, wow, we wish we could have gotten him. he was the one everyone wanted and now the only time we're really talking about chris christie is when some new news comes out about the bridgegate scandal and ult...

Earnest about this he said we've been presented with no evidence of any problem here. >> everybody is talking about there's no smoking gun, and it's the letter of the law. it's a perception problem. >> going back to the late 1990s one asset the clintons had on their side was republican overreach. bill clinton's approval ratings went up after the impeachment. do you think the republicans might overplay their hand once again and set the table for hillary clinton by overreaching this time? >> i don't think that it's going to have to take a lot of effort on the part of republicans to get americans...

And that did not happen. but the bigger question is this is it going to affect the trust and credibility of her, and the bigger question is are people going to say, more scandal and more this? >> i want to turn to carol on this because there may not be a smoking gunning and i am curious, carol, how big of a problem is it going to be for the white house, because when we asked john earnist of this he said we have not been presented with evidence of the wrong doing here? >> everybody is talking about the smoking gun, and it's a perception problem that she has, and that feeds the larger narrative ...

And it looked like bribery. >> bribery is a strong word, julie, and that's romney's opinion. the perception problem, look, this campaign says there is zero evidence and there is no evidence that as of secretary of state she was involved in the decision, and she said the decisions were made down below her and never got to her and there is no evidence of quid pro quo. but why would you introduce your business friend, why would you go to russia and take $500,000 for a speaking fee from a bank that has a stake in the deal when she is the secretary of state? >> well, of course we will never know. i...

Candidate clinton? >> so far politically, not a great deal. clearly, her campaign is concerned about the allegations in this forthcoming book. they are concerned about the perception problem. you see them pushing back very very hard. on each of these constituent parts. however, i mean polling would suggest that while most likely democratic voters think she would be a good president and support her, i mean well over 60% in most polls, there is also a large constituent group of democrats, likely democrats, who when asked as a secondary question, do you think she's trustworthy, answer that in -- ...