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unions part of the solution or part of the problem? there will be more than 19 million students in college this fall. how to make sure that pricey investment pays off. we begin with a passionate debate over public school reformp. with me steven bril, and he spent two years immersed in thousands of pages of documents and hours in the classroom in an interviews for his book "class warfare." take a look at this poll from 1976 asked if teachers unions, helped, hurt or made no difference in the quality of public school education, 38% said unions hurt it. fast forward to today. that number...

Four governors in the country to get that. only three others who got it and they are not running for president. one of the bluest states, in the country, i love my state but it is out there left on the political continue . -- continuum. we did school reform that focused on performance pay for teachers. i did public employee pension reforms before it was cool and popular, welfare reform, tort reform everything the country is talking about and needs now, i did. this is going to be a big point in this race. many other candidates are going to be saying the same things on these issues, but i did th...

Four governors in the country to get that. only three others who got it and they are not running for president. one of the bluest states, in the country, i love my state but it is out there left on the political continue . -- continuum. we did school reform that focused on performance pay for teachers. i did public employee pension reforms before it was cool and popular, welfare reform, tort reform everything the country is talking about and needs now, i did. this is going to be a big point in this race. many other candidates are going to be saying the same things on these issues, but i did th...

Week, talking across the country about the real solutions that will actually move the needle on the critical issues of spending and debt in our country at this time. that's how you break through. the national polls mean very, very little at this time. we've been working on the inside game of organizing at the grass roots level. that's what matters now. >> phil, elections are about choices. inside the republican primary, it's going to be poe continuationly a choice between tim pawlenty and mitt romney. four years ago, you were with mitt romney. you made the choice this time to go with tim pawle...

Money and also get wall street money. i have to take a break from bad mouthing wall street when i think of all the people bad mouthing jeffrey. what do we do with this concept, last in, first out? >> let me say. i think one of the things we must do, we must be willing to discuss the tough issues if we're going to improve the quality of education for our children. some of the very difficult issues michelle and i had to deal with in washington d.c. is those issues talking about seniority base transfer of teachers, talking about performance pay, et cetera. i have a view that may be different th...