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Days ago, when he said there are no e-mails. sort of suggesting i'm the pipeline between the campaign and wikileaks. and two days later that's manifestly untrue, and we've got the documents to prove it. the thing that wrangales for me is the lining and just saying oh, it was just puffery when i was lying. but it's all this endless attempt to destabilize fact finding and truth. >> joyce, he's in serious perjury problems if he said to any federal investigators that there are no e-mails and then these e-mails emerge. >> he seems like someone who may have a number of perjury issues. you know, what...

>> there's an issue of perjury. they testified under oath before this committee. is it possible they could be charged with perjury? >> it is possible, but it's very difficult to prove that someone actually didn't remember when they say they didn't remember. and congress has limited tools to actually enforce perjury issues. so that is an issue. but if it were me, the bigger issue would be what mueller does with this information. >> we don't know what mueller has. he may have -- >> he had information on this. >> he had information on this, and he may have other information about what occurred be...

His fiance faces arraignment two hours from now on perjury issues. at issue, testimony she gave to a grand jury. we're keeping an eye on these developments. molly? >> the defense attorneys for aaron hernandez say that the woman who is his fiance, this woman identified his jenkins will be charged with perjury charges. the investigation of the murder of 27-year-old oden lloyd, a boston man that investigators say was killed by hernandez in june. jenkins, who has a young daughter with her unanimoused he is and lived with him in his north mini mansion will face a judge at about 2:00 today. we hav...

Has been that way for a long time. i am not sure that there is not something that people see in his manner that they don't like and he turns them off. on paper, he did reasonably well tonight, he got his -- as i say, he got his turns and he had plenty to say. he disagreed on some of the issues. his positions may be more to the left. i am not sure he broke out tonight. >> yeah. talking about herman cain, who certainly has had his foreign policy issues over the last several weeks, not to mention some perjury issues as well. i am looking at the politics average, hanging in there, very impressivel...

Perjury very seriously? >> i think john's given good advice about recusal. i think that's the least of his wore esies. if he tonight do that i think there will be perjury issues. who is lying, who is not telling the truth and why and what are they trying to cover up? as you know, the coverup is always the worst. >> the white house then put out a statement a little while ago as we talk ashlt responding to this. they say this is the latest of attacks against the trump administration by partisan democrats. general sessions met in an official capacity as a member of the armed services k3450e9. it'...