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Up and do that. when you are testifying under oath, you got the personal problem. look. dave petraeus -- perjury problem. he is going to take his lumps where they are and tell exam what happened. he was going to tell exactly what was going to happen. >> judge jeanine: i don't think anyone would doubt that. let's talk about leverage here. if you know someone is having an affair. that is incredible leverage. forget about the national security problem that it en again ders. what about a -- engenders. what about a court-martial having nothing to do with criminal charges but having affairs? >> yes....

Up and do that. when you are testifying under not engage. oath, you got the personal >> judge jeanine: let me make it problem. clear, congressman rooney you look. dave petraeus -- perjury have a military background? >> yes, i was a judge advocate problem. he is going to take his lumps in the army as was my wife and where they are and tell exam taught constitutional law at west point. what happened. he was going to tell exactly >> judge jeanine: you believe that the general resigning, do what was going to happen. you think it has anything to do >> judge jeanine: i don't think anyone would doubt...

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Still with us. former rnc chair and political analyst, michael steele, and former deputy assistant for the national defense and national security adviser, nancy farkus. considering we just went through the headlines on russia, the memo, john, i want to pick up where we left off. the idea that the president's team is incredibly concerned about potential, the perjury problem, so to speak. where does that -- how concerned are they still that they have any -- do they have a way out of having the president talk about mueller? >> well, he's going to have to -- it seems, anyway, it seems that the way...

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