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So you put in a system where if somebody is employing you, you have to, you have to actually file with the government what's called e-verify. finish it's a voluntary program now, it's worked really, really well. and, or you know, that means if everybody was certified by the government, that everybody working for you is, in fact, here on a legal permit, that in the long run is great. now, you can't is have that without a permit system because everyone knows in this country we've got millions of people that are here on either expired permits, or they never had a permit in the first place. it's i...

Will understand that the democrats are only using them. they're not actually trying to help them. if they were trying to help them, they would have passed a bill already. i mean, they've got plenty of votes. they could do a bill that would have border security, they could put in some permit systems, they could take care of all the kids that were brought here by no fault of their own. and by the way, those are all things that donald trump wants to do too, it's that donald trump says, hey, i'll do all of that, but i also want to have a wall so that we have long-term, lasting security on our sout...

Now, with this deregulation, obviously it is as controversial as you can get. back in 2014, obviously because of those declining numbers, we wanted to make sure that these populations are sustaining, that, you know, there's not going to be any of these parts being brought to the u.s. trophy-wise, but also keep in mind that there is a difference between the illegal ivory trade, brian, and the -- what u.s. fish and wildlife is moving forward with, with a permit system to bring awareness and funds to the conservation of elephants. >> let's give them the benefit of the doubt that american big game...

Now, with this deregulation, obviously it is as controversial as you can get. back in 2014, obviously because of those declining numbers, we wanted to make sure that these populations are sustaining, that, you know, there's not going to be any of these parts being brought to the u.s. trophy-wise, but also keep in mind that there is a difference between the illegal ivory trade, brian, and the -- what u.s. fish and wildlife is moving forward with, with a permit system to bring awareness and funds to the conservation of elephants. >> let's give them the benefit of the doubt that american big game...

Mind that there is a difference between the illegal ivory trade, brian, and the -- what u.s. fish and wildlife is moving forward with, with a permit system to bring awareness and funds to the conservation of elephants. >> let's give them the benefit of the doubt that american big game hunters who pay the fee, do everything right, that the fee is actually going to get to conservation efforts right now in zimbabwe. right now they're in the middle of what appears to be a coup. they've decided mugave should spend more time with his family and he's in military hands right now. so the government is ...