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But in april of last year, april of 2016, he had an mri scan that was provided from north korea when he arrived in cincinnati and at that time there was evidence of extensive damage to the brain and at that point it appeared it happened just within the previous few weeks, so probably in march at some point. but that was 14 months ago. so what you can say is you know how he's doing now, you can examine him, they can do all the testing, they can get a good idea of how he's doing now. what happened in march/april last year is very hard to tell with the information they have. the state of wakeful ...

Doing? i have our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta, our real-life brain surgeon to translate what we've been hearing from those doctors. i can't even imagine. they have no idea what happened to him in north korea, how to put the pieces together almost backwards. >> yeah. that's exactly right. they are dealing with very limited information. they obviously really described how he's doing now and they use this term unresponsive wakefulness. that's how they describe it. it's a syndrome where someone -- their eyes may be open, they may be blinking and looking around but they have no awa...

And this particular governor had a leg up in making this pitch to congress because he had one very very key contact in washington. which is that his brother was president of the united states at the time. so jeb bush was successful in getting congress to intervene directly in this case in his state. he got congress to pass a law moving jurisdiction for the terri schavio case out of florida state courts and into the federal court system. he got his brother to sign that law as president. he also got members of congress including republican house majority leader tom delay and leader of the senate...

Into the federal court system. he got his brother to sign that law as president. he also got members of congress including republican house majority leader tom delay and leader of the senate republicans, he got them to call terri schiavo as a witness in congress. she sent her a subpoena ordering her to appear in washington d.c. this is a woman who at that point had been in a persistent vegetative state for nearly 15 years. but they subpoenaed her to be a witness in congress. the idea was apparently that they taught maybe if they called her witness then maybe they could envoke federal witness p...

But the system is different. in australia, voting and elections is compulsory. that means that everybody goes. it means that politics are in the main screen and therefore sensible -- >> let's not go down the gun control debate. in terms of this woman, would it make a difference to you if -- the fact that she's brain dead, does that not make a difference to you as opposed to in a persistent vegetative state? >> it doesn't for me. i don't think the law is clear how it applies here. they're doing the right thing. they're going to court. the courts will clarify, will provide direction. >> how quic...