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It must just be driving him to a place of despair at this point. you can see it in the fight he has now when he's out there talking on the road about this. >> peter binart wrote about the president obama we have seen in the last week. basically going out on the road. he says he's gotten his mojo back because, and he said, quote, he's given up the dream that he can transcend the partisan divide. do you agree with that? >> it wasn't wrong for him to have that dream. that's what we like about him. i think he did come into washington thinking, you know what, i can talk to these people on the other...

Has now when he's out there talking on the road about this. >> peter binart wrote about the president obama we have seen in the last week. he says he's gotten his mojo back because he's given up the dream he can transcend the partisan divide. do you agree with that? >> it wasn't wrong for him to have that dream. i think he did come into washington thinking, you know what, i can talk to these people on the other side. i'm not going to change my political viewpoints but we can find common ground. we're all in this together. we're all americans. they just went nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. i mean...

Conservatives show up and say, damn it, this is the way we're doing it. get out of my way. it's like people kind of like that. democrats show up and gut out the guitar and want to sing kumbaya. nobody likes that. whatever i can do to help president obama, because i think he has a good heart, i think he cares deeply about this country and about the people that are hurting and suffering. the 47 million that don't have health insurance. it must just be driving him to a place of despair at this point. you can see it in the fight he has now when he's out there talking on the road about this. >> pet...

Designed to save lives. like the trans fat ban already in effect. but they said salt is not the problem, just the excess of it. maybe like government, you would be worse off without it, and not that happy if it didn't work. i'm not sure if that makes sense. you get the point. a top chef not happy about the salt proposal. he says, "anybody who wants to taste food with a no-salt taste, go to a hospital and taste that." peter, i'm not sure how much salt conversations rate. i'm sure they don't rate as well as sex conversations, i can tell you that. where do you draw the line for politicians and fo...

Outstanding right now in terms of their connection with the religious right. which is the subject i've been writing about in books like "crazy for god," that they welcome this opportunity. >> peter, your thoughts? >> you know, the problem with the massa scandal for democrats is that it's about sex. and because it's about sex, it will get on tv and it will stay on tv, because for better or worse, frankly, probably for worse, people tend to focus a lot on sex and it's easier to talk about than money. does this have anything to do with whether the democrats are worth electing in the fall? no, i d...