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Peter let's talk about what michael talked about a moment ago, this court overturned roe almost exactly a year ago, affirmative action was clearly high up on the rights agenda, what does that say for the right that they won these two massive decisions, decisions on things that all of us here had probably never thought would be in question in our lifetimes. >> these are two huge goals that the legal right has had for many years of course and many people thought they would never get there, they thought they would be able to trim back on the right to access to abortion, trump back on the use of a...

A factor, get test free and eliminated the barrier that standardized testing creates for under representative students and implement a really holistic application process. one that evaluates academic achievement and context, maybe gives credit for underserved and underrepresented to schools, consider school demographics, lots of ways that we can now try to maintain diversity in college campuses. and make admission process more equitable. >> debra, money grab a hustle of s. a. t. prep, we can do an entire show on that for another night. >> absolutely. >> it's unfair to another level. peter let'...

Think some of that stems from a misunderstanding of what affirmative action is many people who view themselves as pro diversity, pro increasing access, let's say they're anti affirmative action have adopted the vision of affirmative action the court put forward today on affirmative action programs that is about set asides and bonuses. that's been illegal for a very long time, colleges and universities are not using quotas, and so when people say that they are pro diversity but anti affirmative action, they misunderstand how those programs actually work. >> peter, we saw the impact that the end...

The fragility of the system. what could is the fed meetin next week. we have been expecting tha they are gonna continue to raise rates. i know you don't have a crysta ball, peter. but how much is jay powell looking at this and saying, might need to take a pause here? >> two points on, this the markets are not thinking tha he is gonna slow down for tw reasons. one, if the banking system i now going to freeze up a bit which means they're not goin to be lending to you and me. >> which is fair to say, the are going to freeze up a bit especially for small and mid size banks, this lending bonanza th...

A little while ago. so. in the last few days and in the last few hours many people have given me their advice don't be so impatient. don't be an overachiever why don't you withdraw your candidacy. you don't have a chance anyway. and moreover. you have so much time. sight i've. asked myself isn't that how we do you do things that. i know a good future needs a good future needs and sometimes impatient. peter what did you make of that statement he's very much looking to the future because he hasn't given been given much of a chance in this yeah it's thirty eight years old which in political terms...