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Outfront now the white house reporter for the wall street journal, peter nicolas broke the story and former united states attorney and former associate independent counsel for the white house investigation. peter, you are breaking this story. what else are you hearing? >> what's happening is president's lawyers know that bob mueller wants and trying to see if there could be some concessions they can get in return. one would be to see if they can get a quick end to this investigation. maybe 60 days after the date of the interview. the other would be possibly limiting scope of the testimony. so ...

They're much more respectful, differential to mueller. they say they want a relationship with him. they don't seem to be bringing up conflict of issues. they're trying to keep open a channel of communication. so we're sort of getting a more contentious vibe and tone from the white house and a much more collegial perspective coming from trump's lawyers. >> probably wise. peter nicolas, white house correspondent for "the wall street journal". thank you for being here. joining us now is barbara mcquade, msnbc contributor. barbara, thank you for being here. i want to pick up sort of where we left ...

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Unspoken, that you are enamored with me and it may be because you know we've compromised you, it may be for a host of reasons. but we're going to leverage that and we're going to get as much out of this meeting as we possibly can. and the fact that you're in the room alone with me means we are going to agree to things in the spur of the moment that your associates and aides would never allow you to agree with. so there is already a leg up for putin going into this meeting and i'm concerned that coming out of the meeting we will slowly but surely learn of some things that we've given away yet a...

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