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E-mails. because then they couldn't be traced. >> the old al qaeda trick. >> and he was raising money from at least four donors, raising at least $100,000. and did he pay hackers? he said he was in touch with five groups of hackers. two of them he believed were russian and had ties to the kremlin. you know, it raises questions about whether or not he was crazy and if he was very aware of what he was doing and whether or not what he was doing was wrong. >> to be clear in terms of following the money here, you've been able to track americans from whom smith raised money for this project. we don'...

Weirder by the way -- it looks weirder now than the day general flynn was sitting there. why would he do that? what was he doing there in moscow that day? tonight, thanks to some new reporting from "the wall street journal," we do know a little bit more about the circumstances there. we now know, for example, what mike flynn was doing right before he flew to moscow to have that dinner. turns out he was talking to this guy. peter w. smith. petr smith was a long-time republican operative, last may he was found death in a hotel room, ruled as a susuicide. just a few days before he died, he did an...

Campaign. what exactly does that mean and what happens next here? joining us is shelby holiday, a reporter at "the wall street journal." thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> so, first, let me ask you, did i get any of that wrong? >> no. factually, it was correct. >> so, in terms of this e-mail, which says that there was a relationship between flynn and mr. smith in 2015, a crucial time for this timeline, what can you tell us about that e-mail, circumstances of it, and whether you see it as, i guess, hard and fast evidence that that relationship did exist? >> the person that wr...

Operative secret fund-raising campaign to obtain what he believed were hillary clinton's e-mails. the "wall street journal" reports that peter w. smith, whose death at 81 last year was rai ruled a suicide had raised money for donors in 2016 in his search for hacked chin on the eed clin. in addition to giving hard drives to the house and senate intelligence committees, mr. smith's estate has given documents to mr. mueller's team. buzzfeed news has reported that smith's bank transfers are under scrutiny. according to documents reviewed by the "wall street journal" smith went to an extraordinary ...

Collusion, detailing how a gop operative, the now deceased peter w. smith launched a quest to obtain e-mails he believed were stolen from hillary clinton's private server while implying that he was connected to michael flynn. >> it shows you both, a, how good the russians are at manipulating people and, b, it shows you how susceptible -- >> right. >> -- the man in the white house is to that manipulation. >> here it is. i'm more than happy to be transparent and more than happy to cooperate with with everyone. >> as far as this incident occurred, this is all of it. >> this is everything. >> that...