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Basically if a public sector unions and large corporations that are too big to fail and other people get all the deems where does it leave the rest of america? >> john: mobility. the data i've seen is conflicted. a pew study of all people found that lots of people who were in the bottom quarter ended up in the top and people on the top end up on the bottom. >> sure, bits 44% on the people get out of that within the next ten years and top fall. that is lower than it was and that is what we should worry about. >> one of the things we a need make, less focus on the income gap. let's say you have ...

The minority blue collar workers staying with the president? because they are suffering probably more. the poverty rate is up. it's harder to get jobs for people who are ill-educated in this country. but they haven't bailed out on the president. so it's got to be cultural. >> well, no. blacks are for obama because he is black. >> bill: oh, come on. >> that's not cultural that's just racial. >> bill: every single african-american supports president obama because of skin color? i don't believe that. >> i think a white democrat would also get 90% of the vote. but there would be some disenchantmen...

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Economists ben stein, author of the "little book of bullet-proof investing." ben, i love these topic 's. first of all the pew study shows that 76% of americans either don't trust the government at all or just have some trust in the government. surprising? not surprising? >> not that surprising. the topic is government broken. i'm not sure there wasn't a time when it wasn't largely broken. some parts of it always worked pretty well. i imagine if you are with a group of special forces or rangers, rather, they work pretty darn well. as to various bureaucracies in washington, that's a different ma...