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Improved, eliminated, no. we should know who they are and make tweaks but to eliminate, it's not american and antiamerican to be antiimmigrant. heather: right, lili, doesn't it just have to happen once as kathy said, maybe look at some changes to this and put our security first? >> absolutely. this program is the loopholes of loopholes when it comes to immigration. i'm a big believer of immigration. i'm an immigrant myself but this one does not give entry based on any family ties or skill-based or merit, so why are we taking 50,000 of these visas and not reallocating them instead to the ph.d's...

Foreign policy secret. but it also caused some head scratching because of the names candidate trump offered. >> walid phares who you probably know, ph.d, adviser to the house of representatives caucus and is a counterterrorism expert. carter page, ph.d. george papadopoulos. he's an oil and energy consultant. excellent guy. the honorable joe schmitz. lieutenant general keith kellogg. and i have quite a few more. but that's a group of some of the people that we are -- that we're dealing with. >> the names on that list were not generally well-known. but one of them we found out today george papad...

Mission. i know that you decided to end it the way you did because you didn't want to contaminate the two moons. so it rather burned up into the saturn atmosphere before plunging into the air. but what did we learn? what do we take from what we learned? >> well, there's a whole new ocean worlds programs based on europa at jupiter and based on saturn. we had no ideas these rocky moons could have ice water jets. we used titan as the gravity assist. we went by titan 127 times and took pictures in four different frequency cameras with radar, with insitu measuring. we have hundreds of ph.d theses y...

The mainland or are we going too take measures guaranteed to prevent that? those measures are probably going to involve the use of military force? >> many of your cleggs were a part of the key decision today and the response to north korea. not only was retired general mattis who is now the defense secretary. we also saw the joint chiefs chair stand next to him and no doubt, h.r. mcmaster was part of this discussion and then as we look at john kelly who is now the chief of staff leading this white house through some very difficult decisions right now. reflect on their ability to bring good dec...

>> by the way, her daughter has a ph.d on foreign relations. >> i used to think that this -- i used to think they were a good influence on him, and we can go back and pull tape from six months ago or so. >> a lot of people said that, that they were a moderate influence. >> look, they're more liberal than i care for and they don't have any experience, but they're sane. and compared to some of the trump whisperers, they're going to keep him in line. i've actually changed my mind about that. i actually think now it is pretty clear that they should go. >> what made you change your mind? >> part of...